12/6/2023 0 Comments Bmw idrive 7 profile![]() Even the best design may not be executed as intended if the team is new or lacks the experience working on specific problems. The best software engineers will still have difficulties executing a poor design. Not all software is created equal not all software is written by BMW. It is what is.Įngineering process / supplier integration / testing: the most complex part. Cars caught un the middle of this cycle are often left behind. Software: new features demanded by the the market often require new hardware - which triggers yet another planning, design, and manufacturing cycle. The software innovation moves at a much faster speed Hardware: typically requires longer planning, design, and manufacturing cycles. The integration of hardware and software in cars has always been very complex and it takes a long time to improve the process. 95% why I came back to a BMW was because of idrive and the controller as I don’t use CarPlay, shocking as I’m not even 30 I know, and much prefer traffic and nav from BMW than CarPlay or any other manufacture’s version. as for me? I HATE touchscreens in cars and not just because of the constant cleaning. As for idrive 7-8, no idea and never found a true answer on why the jump shift, etc. 8.5 is to create more uniformity as far as the visual aspect to idrive 9, while not upsetting the higher end models/older class of drivers who prefer controller knobs over touch screens. 8.5 is being introduced as its Linux based still, so can use the controller knob, but with the graphics resembling idrive 9 as much as Linux can. Notably I drive 9 as it goes away with buttons and controller completely. But they always introduce the newest tech changes to lower models and Europe first for a couple of years before expanding it to higher models and USA. They explained it a while back, I can’t find the article but will link it when I do. Too much historical baggage with how cars are built traditionally and manufacturers are failing to adapt. The EVs should be easier but you never know what happens behind the scene. It will not be easy and I am predicting that will take at least another 5 years until they come out with the next generation vehicles. In order to adopt a more Tesla-like approach, BMW will need to overhaul how cars are designed. When you have multiple tier 3 components that needed to integrate back to to tier 2, tier 1 equipment and to ensure the entire software actually works, that's what you get with all the complexity that you see with BMW. Many of the work might actually include tier 3 suppliers which then the software development is outsourced to a very low cost system integrators who have zero clue about the car and write very crappy software. ![]() Sounds like BMW is still having major difficulties in transitioning to be more sophisticated with software.īased on some of the information I learned in the last few years comparing traditional car manufacturers to the newer breed, the OGs have a lot of reliance on tier 2, tier 3 suppliers to get their work done. By far the best feature as one can navigate menus by memory. What concerns me more is the elimination of the controller. My CIC equipped 2011 335i still gets map updates in 2023, and theoretically a 1997 E38 with nav can run 2015 maps in it (with a MK4 nav computer upgrade)- pretty unprecedented. While I agree with you from a standardization perspective, BMW supports their systems much longer than just about any other manufacturer. ![]() Not to mention idrive 7 is STILL out there BRAND NEW with the G30 and G01 and will be for likely atleast another year. Anyone who just bought an idrive 8 vehicle (assuming OTA/retrofit upgrades are not possible to 8.5), also just got their OTA update support likely decreased dramatically. This is can only mean 1 thing, you can still buy vehicles brand new that likely won’t be supported long term or even short term software wise. If they don’t add any more cars to 8.5 before November 2023, you will be able to buy brand new off the production line cars with any 1 of 4 idrive systems with the inclusion of idrive 9. While not commenting directly on the new OS’s, I just want to point out how categorically stupid this is from a software management pov and a consumer pov.įor perspective, starting July 2023 according to the document, you will be able to buy current model year, NEW off the production line cars, within BMW’s lineup that includes, idrive 7, idrive 8, or idrive 8.5.
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